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United States' T17 Armored Car:

T17 armored car:
USA's T17 Armored Car
T17 armored car:
United State's T17 Armored Car
US Ordnance Dept.
T17E1 armored car:
United States' T17E1 Armored Car
T17E1 armored car:
United State's T17E1 armored car
T17E1 armored car:
United Kingdom's T17E1 Armored Car
Imperial War Museum
T17E2 armored car:
United State's T17E2 armored car
T17E2 armored car:
United State's T17E2 armored car
US Ordnance Dept
T17E3 armored car:
United State's T17E3 armored car
US Ordnance Dept.
Staghound Mk III:
United Kingdom's Staghound Mk III Armored Car
     

Design

Lessons From Europe

After the victories by the Germans in Europe in the summer of 1940 it was seen that the Wehrmacht used wheeled armored cars for reconnaissance.5 In the United States the Army was in the process of acquiring the M3A1 scout car which offered little protection for the crew nor carried large armament.5

British Needs

In July 1941, after British experience in North Africa, the Ordnance Committee gave design specifications for medium and heavy armored cars.5 On October 15, 1942 a committee was formed of Armored Force, Cavalry, Tank Destroyer, and Ordnance personnel to consider the armored cars in design or production. The T17 was considered too large and production was reduced to 250.

The British insisted that the turret contain two of the crewman and that a radio be near the commander.5 There was an extension at the rear of the turret that was used for the installation of a radio.5

T17 Not Wanted by United States Army

On October 14, 1942, the Palmer Board was formed under the leadership of Brigadier General W. B. Palmer.5 The Palmer Board felt that there were too many armored car designs and in December 1942 recommended that all except for the M8 Greyhound armored car program be terminated.5

British Still Needed the T17

The British Army on the other hand still wanted one of the T17 armored car designs.5 In February 1943 the T17 and T17E1 were pitted against each other.5 The T17E1 was the winner as it had better reliability.5

T17E1 by Chevrolet

The T17E1 project was lead by Earl S. MacPherson who was a British born engineer.5 After World War II he designed the automotive MacPherson strut.5

The T17E1 had two General Motors truck engines (97 HP).5

T17 Engine

It was decided that the engine for the T17 models was to be the Hercules JXD engine (110 HP), which was the same as used in the M3A1 scout car and the 2 1/2 ton trucks.5

Turret

Had the turret from the M3 Medium.1 The 37 mm M6 gun was in a M24A1 mount.5

Prototype

Ford developed a 6 wheel pilot model (T17) and Chevrolet a 4 wheel model (T17E1).5

The T17 prototype weighed 28,600 lb and had two Ford engines (90 HP).5 It was completed in March 1942.5

The T17E1 prototype weighed 27,200 lb.5 The prototype was completed in March 1942.5

The T17E2 prototype was completed in March 1943 and shipped to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds for tests.5

Production

In January 1942 an order was placed for 2,260 T17s to be built by Ford.5 These were to be produced at the St. Paul plant.5 In June 1942 another contract was issued to increase production by 1,500.5 These contracts were cancelled but the United States Army decided that 250 could be built while the M8 production was coming online.5

In January 1942 an order was placed for 2,000 T17E1s to be built by Chevrolet.5 The British requested 300 T17E1s in December 1941.5 In April 1942 the order for the T17E1s was increased by 1,500.5

Variants

Usage

Mainland United States

The T17s that were completed were assigned to the United States Army's military police for patrol duties in the United States.5

Mediterranean Theater

The T17 Staghounds were to originally be used for reconnaissance in the North African dessert.5 But by the time they arrived at the front, it had moved to Italy.5 There the Staghounds became bogged down in the Italian mud.5

New Zealand 2nd Division

In August and September 1943 the Divisional Cavalry Regiment of the New Zealand 2nd Division were reequipped with the Staghound.5

The New Zealanders were known for their modifications of equipment and they were the first to swap out the 37 mm gun for a 3" Mk I howitzer.5

27th Lancers

The 27th Lancers was the first British unit to receive the Staghound.5

Northwest Europe

The T17s were used all over North West Europe.5 The Staghounds were primarily used at the headquarters for armored car regiments.5

Three of the Staghound Mk IIIs were sent to the Canadian XII Manitoba Dragoons and they found it was the best 75 mm armored car available.5

Post World War II

The Staghounds served with the Netherlands, Italy, Denmark, and some Middle Eastern countries after World War II.5 They were even found in Lebanon and Nicaragua in the 1980s.5

  T17 T17E1, Staghound Mk I T17E2, Staghound AA
Crew 5 51,2,5
Commander, gunner, loader, driver, hull gunner5
34, 5
Physical Characteristics      
Weight 32,000 lb 30,705 lb5
13.48 tons1, 13.9 tons3, 13.92 tons2
13,700 kg1
26,558 lb, 28,000 lb4
Length w/gun 18' 2" 17' 10", 18'1,2,5
5.486 m2, 5.49 m1,3
17' 7"4, 17' 10"
Length w/o gun      
Height 7' 7" 7' 9"1,2, 9' 4"5
2.31 m3, 2.36 m1,2
7' 8"4, 7' 11 3/8"
Width 8' 6" 8' 10"1,2,5
2.69 m1,2,3
8' 10"4
Width over tracks      
Ground clearance   1' 3"5 13.25"4
Ground contact length      
Ground pressure 17.7 psi 17.95 psi 15.4 psi, 18 psi4
Turret ring diameter      
Armament      
Main 37 mm M6 37 mm M63,5
37 mm 1
2: .50 cal MG3
2: .50 cal HB M2, MG4
Secondary      
MG   2 or 3 7.62 (.30 cal) MG1  
MG - coaxial .30 cal .30 cal5
.30 cal M1919A4 MG3
 
MG - hull   .30 cal3,5  
MG - antiaircraft   .30 cal3,5  
Side arms     .45 cal Thompson submachinegun4
Quantity      
Main 111 1035 2,6104, 5,250
Secondary      
MG 4,750 5,2505  
Side arms     4504
Armor Thickness (mm)   Front: 213
Side: 193
 
Hull Front, Upper 0.75" 0.625 - 0.975"
9, 225
0.625 - 0.975", 0.875"@0°4
Hull Front, Lower      
Hull Sides, Upper 0.75" 0.75"
195
0.375"@0°4, 0.75"
Hull Sides, Lower      
Hull Rear 0.5" 0.625" 0.625"
Hull Top 0.625" 0.5" 0.5"
Hull Bottom 0.25" 0.5-0.25" 0.5-0.25"
Turret Front 1.25" 1.75"
255
mantlet: 1"
1.25"@0°4
Turret Sides 1.25" 1.25"
325
1.25"@0°4
Turret Rear 1.25" 1.25" 1.25"
Turret Top 0.75" 0.5"  
Engine (Make / Model) 2 x Hercules JXD 2 x GMC 2701,2,5 2 x GMC 270
2 x Chevrolet OHV4
Bore / stroke      
Cooling     Water4
Cylinders   62,5 2x64
Capacity      
Net HP   973, 97 each2,5 176 total4
Power to weight ratio   12.6 HP/ton5  
Compression ratio      
Transmission (Type) 8 forward, 2 reverse Hydramatic, 4 forward, 1 reverse5 Hydramatic with dual range transfer case4
8 forward, 2 reverse4
Steering     Nut and recirculating ball, power assist, front wheels only4
Steering ratio      
Starter      
Electrical system      
Ignition      
Fuel (Type)   Gasoline2 Gasoline4
Octane      
Quantity     90 gallons4
Quantity - internal   62 gallons5  
Quantity - external   38 gallons5  
Road consumption     3 mpg4
Cross country consumption      
Performance      
Traverse 360° 360° 360°4
43°/sec
Fraser-Nash hydraulic powered4
Max speed 60 mph 55 mph1,2,5
89 kph1,2, 92 kph3
55 mph4
Cross country speed      
Road radius 250 miles 450 miles1,2
724 km1,2
450 miles4
Cross country radius      
Turning radius 30' 27.5' 27.5', 28'4
Elevation limits -10° to +45° -7° to +40° -10° to +75°3 , -10° to +80°4
Fording depth 2' 8" 2' 8"2
0.8 m2
2' 8"4
Trench crossing   1' 6"5  
Vertical obstacle 1' 6" 1' 9"2,5
0.533 m2
1' 8"4, 1' 9"
Climbing ability     57° slope4
Suspension (Type)     Semi-elliptic springing4
Wheels each side 6 4 4
Return rollers each side      
Wheels (Type)   4: 14 x 20 21 ply combat tires5  
Length      
Width      
Diameter      
Number of links      
Pitch      
Tire tread      
Track centers/tread     89"4

Sources:

  1. The Encyclopedia of Tanks and Armored Fighting Vehicles - The Comprehensive Guide to Over 900 Armored Fighting Vehicles From 1915 to the Present Day, General Editor: Christopher F. Foss, 2002
  2. The Encyclopedia of Weapons of World War II, Chris Bishop, 1998
  3. Jane's World War II Tanks and Fighting Vehicles The Complete Guide, Leland Ness, 2002
  4. Tank Data 2, Aberdeen Proving Grounds Series, E. J. Hoffschmidt and W. H. Tantum IV, 1969
  5. Staghound Armored Car 1942 - 1962, Steven J. Zaloga, 2009
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