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United States' T17 Armored Car:
Design
Lessons From Europe
After the victories by the Germans in Europe in the summer of 1940 it was seen that the Wehrmacht used wheeled armored cars for reconnaissance.5 In the United States the Army was in the process of acquiring the M3A1 scout car which offered little protection for the crew nor carried large armament.5
British Needs
In July 1941, after British experience in North Africa, the Ordnance Committee gave design specifications for medium and heavy armored cars.5 On October 15, 1942 a committee was formed of Armored Force, Cavalry, Tank Destroyer, and Ordnance personnel to consider the armored cars in design or production. The T17 was considered too large and production was reduced to 250.
The British insisted that the turret contain two of the crewman and that a radio be near the commander.5 There was an extension at the rear of the turret that was used for the installation of a radio.5
T17 Not Wanted by United States Army
On October 14, 1942, the Palmer Board was formed under the leadership of Brigadier General W. B. Palmer.5 The Palmer Board felt that there were too many armored car designs and in December 1942 recommended that all except for the M8 Greyhound armored car program be terminated.5
British Still Needed the T17
The British Army on the other hand still wanted one of the T17 armored car designs.5 In February 1943 the T17 and T17E1 were pitted against each other.5 The T17E1 was the winner as it had better reliability.5
T17E1 by Chevrolet
The T17E1 project was lead by Earl S. MacPherson who was a British born engineer.5 After World War II he designed the automotive MacPherson strut.5
The T17E1 had two General Motors truck engines (97 HP).5
T17 Engine
It was decided that the engine for the T17 models was to be the Hercules JXD engine (110 HP), which was the same as used in the M3A1 scout car and the 2 1/2 ton trucks.5
Turret
Had the turret from the M3 Medium.1 The 37 mm M6 gun was in a M24A1 mount.5
Prototype
Ford developed a 6 wheel pilot model (T17) and Chevrolet a 4 wheel model (T17E1).5
The T17 prototype weighed 28,600 lb and had two Ford engines (90 HP).5 It was completed in March 1942.5
The T17E1 prototype weighed 27,200 lb.5 The prototype was completed in March 1942.5
The T17E2 prototype was completed in March 1943 and shipped to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds for tests.5
Production
In January 1942 an order was placed for 2,260 T17s to be built by Ford.5 These were to be produced at the St. Paul plant.5 In June 1942 another contract was issued to increase production by 1,500.5 These contracts were cancelled but the United States Army decided that 250 could be built while the M8 production was coming online.5
In January 1942 an order was placed for 2,000 T17E1s to be built by Chevrolet.5 The British requested 300 T17E1s in December 1941.5 In April 1942 the order for the T17E1s was increased by 1,500.5
- T17: 2501
- Production: 19411
- November 1942: 85
- December 1942: 245
- January 1943: 665
- March 1943: 1245
- April 1943: 265
- May 1943: 25
- Manufacturer: Ford4
- Production: 19411
- T17E15, Staghound Mk I5: 2,687, 2,8441,5
- Production: October 1942 - December 19431
- October 1942: 285
- November 1942: 545
- December 1942: 755
- January 1943: 1005
- February 1943: 685
- March 1943: 3125
- April 1943: 2755
- May 1943: 2565
- June 1943: 3225
- July 1943: 2795
- August 1943: 3355
- September 1943: 2285
- October 1943: 1985
- November 1943: 1475
- December 1943: 1675
- Production: October 1942 - December 19431
- T17E25, Staghound AA5: 789, 1,0005
- Production: ? - April 1944
- 1943: 5004
- October 1943: 125
- November 1943: 715
- December 1943: 1285
- January 1944: 2205
- February 1944: 2005
- March 1944: 2255
- April 1944: 1445
- Production: ? - April 1944
- T17E35, Howitzer Staghound5: 305
- Production:
- December 1942: 25
- January 1943: 15
- March 1943: 95
- April 1943: 75
- May 1943: 115
- Production:
- Staghound Mk III5: 32 converted5
Variants
- T17 Armored Car5: Designed by Ford.5
- T17E1 Armored Car5, Staghound Mk I5: Designed by Chevrolet.5 It was designed to be a long distance reconnaissance vehicle and convoy escort. First went into combat in Italy in 1943. Was issued to Canadian, New Zealand, Indian, and Belgian units.
- T17E2 Armored Car5, Staghound AA5: Antiaircraft armored car.5 Had a Fraser-Nash powered turret installed.5
One source says that 1,000 and another states 789 were produced and shipped to Britain.
The .50 cal MGs fired an API round at a velocity of 2,930'/sec.4 - T17E3 Armored Car5, Howitzer Staghound5: Had 75 mm howitzer placed in turret.5
- Staghound Mk II5, Staghound 3"5: In Italy the New Zealand Divisional Cavalry Regiment substituted 3" Mk howitzers for the 37 mm gun.5
- Staghound Mk III5: Had Crusader tank turret with 75 mm gun mounted.5 Issued to heavy troops of armored car regiments.
- Staghound Command5: Turret removed and extra radio gear and a table installed.5
- Staghound Charger5: Turrets removed from Staghound AA and a plastic windshield installed.5 The regimental commander would then use the vehicle.5
- Staghound Control5: Four assigned to each armored car regiment.5 Had a second No. 19 radio installed outside the turret.5
- Staghound Rear-Link5: Used by Canadians.5 Main gun removed and a long range CR-299 radio and antennae installed.5 It would allow the armored car regiment to communicate with the corp or other headquarters in the rear.5
Usage
Mainland United States
The T17s that were completed were assigned to the United States Army's military police for patrol duties in the United States.5
Mediterranean Theater
The T17 Staghounds were to originally be used for reconnaissance in the North African dessert.5 But by the time they arrived at the front, it had moved to Italy.5 There the Staghounds became bogged down in the Italian mud.5
New Zealand 2nd Division
In August and September 1943 the Divisional Cavalry Regiment of the New Zealand 2nd Division were reequipped with the Staghound.5
The New Zealanders were known for their modifications of equipment and they were the first to swap out the 37 mm gun for a 3" Mk I howitzer.5
27th Lancers
The 27th Lancers was the first British unit to receive the Staghound.5
Northwest Europe
The T17s were used all over North West Europe.5 The Staghounds were primarily used at the headquarters for armored car regiments.5
Three of the Staghound Mk IIIs were sent to the Canadian XII Manitoba Dragoons and they found it was the best 75 mm armored car available.5
Post World War II
The Staghounds served with the Netherlands, Italy, Denmark, and some Middle Eastern countries after World War II.5 They were even found in Lebanon and Nicaragua in the 1980s.5
| T17 | T17E1, Staghound Mk I | T17E2, Staghound AA | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Crew | 5 | 51,2,5 Commander, gunner, loader, driver, hull gunner5 |
34, 5 |
| Physical Characteristics | |||
| Weight | 32,000 lb | 30,705 lb5 13.48 tons1, 13.9 tons3, 13.92 tons2 13,700 kg1 |
26,558 lb, 28,000 lb4 |
| Length w/gun | 18' 2" | 17' 10", 18'1,2,5 5.486 m2, 5.49 m1,3 |
17' 7"4, 17' 10" |
| Length w/o gun | |||
| Height | 7' 7" | 7' 9"1,2, 9' 4"5 2.31 m3, 2.36 m1,2 |
7' 8"4, 7' 11 3/8" |
| Width | 8' 6" | 8' 10"1,2,5 2.69 m1,2,3 |
8' 10"4 |
| Width over tracks | |||
| Ground clearance | 1' 3"5 | 13.25"4 | |
| Ground contact length | |||
| Ground pressure | 17.7 psi | 17.95 psi | 15.4 psi, 18 psi4 |
| Turret ring diameter | |||
| Armament | |||
| Main | 37 mm M6 | 37 mm M63,5 37 mm 1 |
2: .50 cal MG3 2: .50 cal HB M2, MG4 |
| Secondary | |||
| MG | 2 or 3 7.62 (.30 cal) MG1 | ||
| MG - coaxial | .30 cal | .30 cal5 .30 cal M1919A4 MG3 |
|
| MG - hull | .30 cal3,5 | ||
| MG - antiaircraft | .30 cal3,5 | ||
| Side arms | .45 cal Thompson submachinegun4 | ||
| Quantity | |||
| Main | 111 | 1035 | 2,6104, 5,250 |
| Secondary | |||
| MG | 4,750 | 5,2505 | |
| Side arms | 4504 | ||
| Armor Thickness (mm) | Front: 213 Side: 193 |
||
| Hull Front, Upper | 0.75" | 0.625 - 0.975" 9, 225 |
0.625 - 0.975", 0.875"@0°4 |
| Hull Front, Lower | |||
| Hull Sides, Upper | 0.75" | 0.75" 195 |
0.375"@0°4, 0.75" |
| Hull Sides, Lower | |||
| Hull Rear | 0.5" | 0.625" | 0.625" |
| Hull Top | 0.625" | 0.5" | 0.5" |
| Hull Bottom | 0.25" | 0.5-0.25" | 0.5-0.25" |
| Turret Front | 1.25" | 1.75" 255 mantlet: 1" |
1.25"@0°4 |
| Turret Sides | 1.25" | 1.25" 325 |
1.25"@0°4 |
| Turret Rear | 1.25" | 1.25" | 1.25" |
| Turret Top | 0.75" | 0.5" | |
| Engine (Make / Model) | 2 x Hercules JXD | 2 x GMC 2701,2,5 | 2 x GMC 270 2 x Chevrolet OHV4 |
| Bore / stroke | |||
| Cooling | Water4 | ||
| Cylinders | 62,5 | 2x64 | |
| Capacity | |||
| Net HP | 973, 97 each2,5 | 176 total4 | |
| Power to weight ratio | 12.6 HP/ton5 | ||
| Compression ratio | |||
| Transmission (Type) | 8 forward, 2 reverse | Hydramatic, 4 forward, 1 reverse5 | Hydramatic with dual range transfer case4 8 forward, 2 reverse4 |
| Steering | Nut and recirculating ball, power assist, front wheels only4 | ||
| Steering ratio | |||
| Starter | |||
| Electrical system | |||
| Ignition | |||
| Fuel (Type) | Gasoline2 | Gasoline4 | |
| Octane | |||
| Quantity | 90 gallons4 | ||
| Quantity - internal | 62 gallons5 | ||
| Quantity - external | 38 gallons5 | ||
| Road consumption | 3 mpg4 | ||
| Cross country consumption | |||
| Performance | |||
| Traverse | 360° | 360° | 360°4 43°/sec Fraser-Nash hydraulic powered4 |
| Max speed | 60 mph | 55 mph1,2,5 89 kph1,2, 92 kph3 |
55 mph4 |
| Cross country speed | |||
| Road radius | 250 miles | 450 miles1,2 724 km1,2 |
450 miles4 |
| Cross country radius | |||
| Turning radius | 30' | 27.5' | 27.5', 28'4 |
| Elevation limits | -10° to +45° | -7° to +40° | -10° to +75°3 , -10° to +80°4 |
| Fording depth | 2' 8" | 2' 8"2 0.8 m2 |
2' 8"4 |
| Trench crossing | 1' 6"5 | ||
| Vertical obstacle | 1' 6" | 1' 9"2,5 0.533 m2 |
1' 8"4, 1' 9" |
| Climbing ability | 57° slope4 | ||
| Suspension (Type) | Semi-elliptic springing4 | ||
| Wheels each side | 6 | 4 | 4 |
| Return rollers each side | |||
| Wheels (Type) | 4: 14 x 20 21 ply combat tires5 | ||
| Length | |||
| Width | |||
| Diameter | |||
| Number of links | |||
| Pitch | |||
| Tire tread | |||
| Track centers/tread | 89"4 |
Sources:
- The Encyclopedia of Tanks and Armored Fighting Vehicles - The Comprehensive Guide to Over 900 Armored Fighting Vehicles From 1915 to the Present Day, General Editor: Christopher F. Foss, 2002
- The Encyclopedia of Weapons of World War II, Chris Bishop, 1998
- Jane's World War II Tanks and Fighting Vehicles The Complete Guide, Leland Ness, 2002
- Tank Data 2, Aberdeen Proving Grounds Series, E. J. Hoffschmidt and W. H. Tantum IV, 1969
- Staghound Armored Car 1942 - 1962, Steven J. Zaloga, 2009
